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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:39 pm 
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As Colonel Kernel would say: go read the research papers.


Pretty soon, that's all people will remember when they think of me! :P


That's something you should start from, reading the research papers, there's quite a lot of research going on in OS area, it's a pity not all OS developers at least skim through these papers.

Would it be a good idea to have a research paper forum?

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 Post subject: Re: Research papers
PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:48 pm 
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I think the best thing would be to provide links at the end of each wiki article to actual research papers, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Research papers
PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:31 pm 
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Just make sure this site doesn't depend on papers that cost money to access. I think that would be one of the most detrimental things we could do.

I'd hate to leave someone out because they lack access to a credit card (I didn't have one until I was 21). Or you know, just plain can't afford it (I've gone without books I've wanted to read before).

After-thought: I suppose an even worse thing is when a paper/book is hyped, you shell out $100-$200 to get it, and discover that it is terrible! I've had that happen before. That's why I'd be very cautious recommending papers.


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 Post subject: Re: Research papers
PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:57 pm 
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berkus wrote:
That's right, but quite a lot of papers are available freely from citeseer or their authors' sites. There are some quite interesting papers in paid area, but we can skip these from wiki and leave as homework assignment for really interested.

Citeseer is partially what I had in mind when I said this. There are some topics that have papers, but those papers rely on papers you need to pay for. I once read one that had "So-and-so's method" as opposed to "What's-his-name's method" without defining how EITHER method worked! They only referenced the other papers.

Of course, the paper had merit that I appreciated, once I read the background info.

So I suppose I'll modify my statement a little:
"Just make sure this site doesn't directly or indirectly depend on papers that cost money to access."


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:24 pm 
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Love4Boobies wrote:
I think the best thing would be to provide links at the end of each wiki article to actual research papers, etc.


Seconded. If there is a forum for such things, the forum will get used for the same research papers over and over again. Linking to them at the bottom of a Wiki page is much more permanent. If you want to discuss a research paper, write another one about it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:40 pm 
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kasper wrote:
Would it be a good idea to have a research paper forum?

Kasper


If we want a new forum, it should pretty much be guaranteed to have continuous postings for it not to die. And only talking about Singularity isn't enough to keep a dedicated forum alive.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:08 pm 
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If we were to have a new forum of any topic I think it would have to be the "locked topic" forum full of topics like those of cotton and friends, all locked. Use the forum as a "what not to do when making new topics" link.

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I have really bad experience with those kind of things:
Live example: http://zzt.belsambar.net/fora/viewforum.php?f=19 (warning: potentially NSFW content)

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