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I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:37 am
by stdcall
I just thought about it for implementation in my OS. This is so lame that such basic things are patented like that.
https://www.google.ch/patents/US20080195838

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:21 am
by Solar
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why it is such a bad idea to allow patents on procedures / software in the first place.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:48 am
by Rusky
Like most software patents, it's probably safe to ignore it- a quick google search shows it's independently implemented in all kinds of open source projects, and has been talked about and used (as in, it's a well-known tool in the industry) several years before that patent. (For example, https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnew ... 0/?p=42263 and http://vrb.sourceforge.net/ and even http://web.archive.org/web/200306032125 ... shusr.org/)

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:49 pm
by drunkenfox
So if I get this right bascially a circular buffer when 99% of internet, audio, video, and other streamed programs rely on?

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:14 pm
by stdcall
Basically it's mapping one physical page to two consecutive virtual addresse.
So, when we write pass the first virtual page, we wrap back to the beginning of the page.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:33 pm
by Ycep
First steps to Microsoft's monopoly, folks.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:03 pm
by Sik
Incidentally, this is exactly the same thing as mirroring in hardware, just that in this case it's done at the virtual space instead.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:06 am
by Solar
Rusky wrote:Like most software patents, it's probably safe to ignore it...


Yes you would probably win a court case.

But that means you would have to go through a court case, paying lawyers from your own pockets, while the sueing party has a fully payed legal department.

I tell you from personal experience, that's certainly going to mess up your bank account and your time schedule...

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:49 am
by Schol-R-LEA
Lukand wrote:First steps to Microsoft's monopoly, folks.


You are either 35 years too late with that observation, or rather poor at expressing sarcasm in English.

To be fair, sarcasm is tricky in plain text.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:13 am
by stdcall
The problem here is not Microsoft.
The actual problem are the patent offices who approve these ridicules patents.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:42 am
by max
stdcall wrote:The problem here is not Microsoft.
The actual problem are the patent offices who approve these ridicules patents.
If I do a crime to you, but someone decides that it was legit, it might still be a crime to you.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:36 pm
by iansjack
You are suggesting that your individual views are more important than those of the courts who are set up to deal with crimes. That's a dangerous road, which ends up with vigilantes.

Change the law if it's wrong, but don't take the law into your own hands.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:34 am
by MichaelFarthing
iansjack wrote:You are suggesting that your individual views are more important than those of the courts who are set up to deal with crimes. That's a dangerous road, which ends up with vigilantes.

Change the law if it's wrong, but don't take the law into your own hands.


It is also the road that produced the mass protests that have won votes for women and the end of the slave trade.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:57 am
by iansjack
No.

Changing the law achieved those ends, not taking the law into your own hands.

Re: I can't believe they patented this

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:08 am
by MichaelFarthing
With regard to slavery perhaps. Certainly not in the case of votes for women which would not have happened without the direct action against the law.

Edit:

I originally said more about the principle, but this is not the place. Suffice to say we have a totally different view of political philosophy.