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 Post subject: Re: Against bootloaders
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:21 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Against bootloaders
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:36 am 
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@Schol-R-LEA: I like the change you made to the bootloader paragraph in your new thread. It says everything that's really needed.


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 Post subject: Re: Against bootloaders
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:20 am 
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thomtl wrote:
Thread for reference: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33784

I don't understand. There are as many if not more threads about GRUB issues...
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33766
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33799
Just to name the most recent two.

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 Post subject: Re: Against bootloaders
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:24 am 
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Neither of those threads are about grub, per se.


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 Post subject: Re: Against bootloaders
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:38 am 
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iansjack wrote:
Neither of those threads are about grub, per se.
True, not the software itself, but they are usability issues of grub, and problems loading OSes using multiboot. Perfect examples that grub and its accompanied multiboot protocol are overcomplicated, therefore not as easy option as one would expect. And that was my original point: it's easier to write a boot record that just loads your kernel like Xv6 does (not to mention that you could use Xv6 boot record as-is to load ANY ELF kernel if you don't want to roll your own loader. It is a hell lot easier to install Xv6 boot record than installing and configuring grub correctly).

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 Post subject: Re: Against bootloaders
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:43 am 
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I hardly think that a simple typo in a source file represents a problem with the complexity of either the multiboot standard or GRUB.

As for a failure to read the documentation - that's not a problem unique to GRUB.


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 Post subject: Re: Against bootloaders
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:02 pm 
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If GRUB is so hard to use, why do people ITT keep acting like writing a bootloader is a litmus test for programming ability?

Pick one guys, either GRUB is too hard or GRUB users are too dumb to write an OS.


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