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 Post subject: New GRUB 2 article
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:07 pm 
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For anyone who hasn't seen it already, there's a new tutorial I made on how to upgrade from GRUB Legacy to GRUB 2.
Link: GRUB 2

The tutorial instructions has been tested with my OS.

Please, tell me what you think, and how to improve it!

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:56 pm 
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Nice start.

But it doesn't tell the reader anything about what grub-mkimage does, or what the parameters are for.

And it doesn't tell us about the similarities / differences between GRUB legacy and GRUB 2. (Multiboot header still required? Any changes in the magic numbers? State of the CPU when control passes to the kernel still the same as with GRUB Legacy?)

PS: Sorry, I meant to answer this post the whole week long, but I was at a training seminar, and the online terminals they had there were blacklisted because of spamming... :?

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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Thanks, I'll add that ASAP!

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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nice... I have so many questions about grub2 :)
How to use genisoimage to generate an iso image from core.img?
How to mount core.img?

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For anyone who hasn't seen it already, there's a new tutorial I made on how to upgrade from GRUB Legacy to GRUB 2.
Link: GRUB 2

The tutorial instructions has been tested with my OS.

Please, tell me what you think, and how to improve it!


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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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DrLecter wrote:
How to use genisoimage to generate an iso image from core.img?
How to mount core.img?


Not questions about GRUB 2, but questions about Disk Images and genisoimage.

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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DrLecter wrote:
nice... I have so many questions about grub2 :)
How to use genisoimage to generate an iso image from core.img?
How to mount core.img?

KotuxGuy wrote:
For anyone who hasn't seen it already, there's a new tutorial I made on how to upgrade from GRUB Legacy to GRUB 2.
Link: GRUB 2

The tutorial instructions has been tested with my OS.

Please, tell me what you think, and how to improve it!


I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but that article clearly stated that core.img is used in conjunction with cdboot.img to generate a bootable image.
It also gave instructions on how to make a LiveCD, with genisoimage.

Please, in the future, do some research before you ask, OK?

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:13 am 
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come on... I know what genisoimage and google are for.

After reading the man page I couldn't hit the right combination of parameters.

Forgive me for being so stupid :)


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DrLecter wrote:
How to use genisoimage to generate an iso image from core.img?
How to mount core.img?


Not questions about GRUB 2, but questions about Disk Images and genisoimage.


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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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DrLecter wrote:
come on... I know what genisoimage and google are for.

After reading the man page I couldn't hit the right combination of parameters.
If you had followed forum rules...

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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Combuster: Thread Lock requested! :D

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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Combuster isn't a moderator.

As for the article, I have the following to say:
  • I think it's a tutorial, but I have no idea what I get out of it, and I have no idea how it works. You need far more explanation even if this is just a tutorial.
  • Why GRUB2? I'm not going to stop using GRUB Legacy unless I can see some nice summarised reasons for using GRUB2
  • When you talk about the different syntax, you show a simple example. How has the syntax changed? What about modules - has the syntax for specifying those changed? If you tell people the syntax is different, you need to show how it's different in ways that are relevant to the most common use cases.
  • More information about what GRUB2 is? The history of GRUB2 (and GRUB in general) is not short enough to fit into two sentences like you've done.
  • Why not also cover "copying the files to a disk image"? At the moment you just stop - the GRUB legacy article walks through setting up a complete floppy disk image from scratch, and the Bootable El-Torito CD with GRUB Legacy also covers setting up a complete GRUB legacy ISO. The thing a reader of your page probably needs to know the most is how to actually create that bootable image ;)

I realise Solar has already mentioned a couple of these things, but I thought a nice summary of problems I've found with the page would make it easier for you to see what I see.

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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Whoops, I forgot Combuster wasn't a mod. The way he handles n00bs, you'd think he'd still not stepped down :lol:

Yes, I see your points. Although there's quite a lot of them, and as I'm quite busy with non-OS stuff right now, I don't know when I can get all that done.

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 Post subject: Re: New GRUB 2 article
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all fixed with the links... sorry... next time I will search better :)

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Combuster isn't a moderator.

As for the article, I have the following to say:
  • I think it's a tutorial, but I have no idea what I get out of it, and I have no idea how it works. You need far more explanation even if this is just a tutorial.
  • Why GRUB2? I'm not going to stop using GRUB Legacy unless I can see some nice summarised reasons for using GRUB2
  • When you talk about the different syntax, you show a simple example. How has the syntax changed? What about modules - has the syntax for specifying those changed? If you tell people the syntax is different, you need to show how it's different in ways that are relevant to the most common use cases.
  • More information about what GRUB2 is? The history of GRUB2 (and GRUB in general) is not short enough to fit into two sentences like you've done.
  • Why not also cover "copying the files to a disk image"? At the moment you just stop - the GRUB legacy article walks through setting up a complete floppy disk image from scratch, and the Bootable El-Torito CD with GRUB Legacy also covers setting up a complete GRUB legacy ISO. The thing a reader of your page probably needs to know the most is how to actually create that bootable image ;)

I realise Solar has already mentioned a couple of these things, but I thought a nice summary of problems I've found with the page would make it easier for you to see what I see.


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