If there are clearly visible forum rules, I don't see why implementation of those rules should require discussion and polls.
The mod forum is used primarily to flag up content for moderation decisions - I see no problem with this and didn't see any problem with it even before I became a mod.
Unless asking for some statistics leads to some moderator saying that the particular mod forum is "entire confidential?"
You may feel that the OSDev signal:noise ratio is low now, but I honestly believe that a "100% democratical" voting system would have led to this becoming much more of a basic programming tutorial site. How many people who use the forums do you think have OS development experience and how many do you think are people with little programming experience (noobs,if you like)? I suspect the latter outnumber the former. Why, then, would voting on all moderation decisions improve quality?
At the risk of getting political, I also think that the idea that democracy leads to perfection is quite funny
Heh, you make a valid point. I'm now in a cross...
Read what I wrote. Read the place where I said, and I quote, "perfect OSDev.org forum".
I think there is a slight misconception here. You are talking about the "perfect OSDev.org forum" as if you are the owner, which you (fortunately, IMO) are not. If you wanted to express your views on a perfect operating system development forum, maybe you shouldn't be specifically referring to one that already exists and has different purposes than your hypothetical "perfect" one. The "perfect" OSDev.org forum should be left up to the owner to decide what it is. The owner (or someone else with the owner's permission) has placed the banner up the top, clearly stating the purpose of these forums, which I will not repeat.
As far as I know, chase manages most of the service side stuff for OSDev.org. Other than that, there is no such "owner." IMHO, chase shouldn't be the lone person to decide what this forum is for. It's for the people using the forum to decide what the forums is used for. As for the banner at the top, I've seen some threads questioning why it says what it says, too.
And TBH, I don't really care what your (or anyone's for that matter) view of a perfect operating system development forum is (no offense intended).
If you don't, why the hell are you replying?
Someone on the IRC channel told me that if I have so many problems with this forum, I should stop using it. To give a simple answer to why I'm not doing that (yet): I like this forums, and I care about everyone's opinions. Thus, I'm trying to do a discussion about what I think, how it can be improved, etc. If you don't care about what I think, how I think it can be improved, please stop participating in the discussion.
Anyway, I guess if the moderators don't want change, and reading how this board functions, I guess it's just better for me to leave this place after some time...
So that's how you see this place... all about how it functions, rather than its purpose. If you were here for proper reasons (i.e. learning OS Dev), you wouldn't care how the board functions, you just use it for what its meant for.
Err. You mean to say you don't care about how the board functions? Imagine me making a web-search engine named "BooBoo." BooBoo's purpose is to be the best possible search engine. On the other hand, it functions by parsing all emails in your spam filter, and reporting all the links it finds. If you were using BooBoo for what it's meant for, i.e., perfect search, you wouldn't care about how it functions?
you sure post a lot
And, what? That was a slight remark, made in brackets. Please don't raise invalid questions, just for the heck of it.
I hope you are beginning to realise that a programming forum is not a good place to start an argument with no real substance behind it. Most of us here aren't 12 year olds with an IQ of < 80.
D'oh! You're right. Most of us here are 17 year old (note: if you say "12 year olds," you probably just proved what your IQ is) with an IQ of < 80.
Sure, the bank is the place to start for getting money, but why stop at that and not just rob it? You'd get more money in the same amount of time and you don't need to give it back.
Heh, that's a beautiful analogy. I might copy it many a times, henceforth.