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 Post subject: Эх наши буржудрузья
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:55 am 
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Не, не бывает ни одного крупного форума без русских.

Всякие оскорбления в сторону наших зарубежных друзей я буду писать в замаскированном виде, чтобы они не обиделись.

Так вот, в чём дело то, один буржуадаун дооооебался ко мне с тем что shell это только CLI. Но ведь шелл - оболочка.
Шеллом можно назвать что угодно. Например IDE TP это тоже в каком то смысле шелл. Разве нет?
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 Post subject: Re: Эх наши буржудрузья
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:59 am 
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Так ладно, xuj с ним с тем буржуууем.

Потом другой чувак начал мне что то втирать, и закинул меня в игнор. Да, слив засчитан само собой, но ведь если ты пишешь свой высер то ты должен подумать перед этим.

Я то наверное сопоставил свои навыки перед тем как начал пилить OGDOS


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 Post subject: Re: Эх наши буржудрузья
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:01 am 
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Any insults towards our foreign friends, I'll be writing in a disguised form, that they are not offended.
You do know about Google Translate, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Эх наши буржудрузья
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:22 am 
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When your only answer to helpful criticism is to insult people in a foreign language, I suspect you are beyond help from anyone here.


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 Post subject: Re: Эх наши буржудрузья
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iansjack wrote:
When your only answer to helpful criticism is to insult people in a foreign language, I suspect you are beyond help from anyone here.

What do you mean by criticism? Misinterpretation of the word "shell"? "Shell" - this is the user's environment, rather than a CLI or GUI


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 Post subject: Re: Эх наши буржудрузья
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monobogdan wrote:
iansjack wrote:
When your only answer to helpful criticism is to insult people in a foreign language, I suspect you are beyond help from anyone here.

What do you mean by criticism? Misinterpretation of the word "shell"? "Shell" - this is the user's environment, rather than a CLI or GUI


Shell DOES usually mean a CLI such as Unix Shell (sh) or rather some kind of console.

Edit: insulting people in a foreign language is not constructive -- nearly everyone here is just trying to be helpful.


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 Post subject: Re: Эх наши буржудрузья
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ronsor wrote:
monobogdan wrote:
iansjack wrote:
When your only answer to helpful criticism is to insult people in a foreign language, I suspect you are beyond help from anyone here.

What do you mean by criticism? Misinterpretation of the word "shell"? "Shell" - this is the user's environment, rather than a CLI or GUI


Shell DOES usually mean a CLI such as Unix Shell (sh) or rather some kind of console.


No, shell means any user environment. See for example "explorer.exe", some of this modules called "shell".

And lexical, "shell" is "shell". CLI Shell is more correct for sh.


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 Post subject: Re: Эх наши буржудрузья
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Hi,

monobogdan wrote:
Поделитесь своим мнением.


I guess few people really know this (it was a very long time ago); but my very first attempt at writing an OS was extremely bad. I don't just mean "bad" (nobody ever writes a good OS their first time); I mean completely crippled, idiotic, dodgy and stupid in a highly embarrassing way. Fortunately (after getting Internet access - it really was a very long time ago) people helped me learn more and learn faster, and so I improved quickly. My second OS was much better (still bad, but not extremely bad). It wasn't until my third or fourth OS that I started doing something decent.

Of course if I annoyed the people that were trying to help me, or ignored them, or insulted them; then it would've taken me a lot longer before I started writing a "not bad" OS.

Do you think there's anything that you could do to maximise the rate that your skills improve?


Cheers,

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