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 Post subject: new desktop & filesystem metaphors
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2001 12:00 am 
Hey guys,

I thought this might an interesting topic of discussion
here. I sure many of you have read the new article
out about new desktop metaphors... I'll post the URL
when I can find it again... and I'm wondering what
you think of the suggest "future desktops."

Personally, the idea of representing a file with
all its attribs (ie, where it came from, through which
transfer protocol, author, size, and a thumbnail) as
one unique entity is a simple, yet good idea... Linux
pretty much already does that with Konqueror.

I think the idea of a 3d desktop is key, and should
definately be used in the future, but I think M$
implementation of it is gross. They claim its
intuitive to new users, and increases productivity,
but I'm better it does the exact opposite (while
looking horrendous at the same time).

Any ideas? Opinions?

And how about file systems? The BeFS, with its
attributes and journalling, seems one of the best
in my opinion. I don't know the specifics of ReiserFS
or Ext3, but from what I've heard, they're quite
promising.

Personally, the idea that every file is an object
seems interesting to me. Every file is derived
from type "File" and has a select group of attributes
and methods which every file will inherit.

From there you get classes such as "Document" and
"Image" which are further broken down into "KWord"
and "Gimp XCF" I think inter-operability between
applications would grow considerable with a system
such as this.

Plus, it just looks cool to do things like:
myNewDocument.open();
thisFile.rename("thisOtherFile");
encryptedFile.decrypt("insert data key here");

What do you think?

Com'on folks, lets get a big discussion! :) I wanna
know what everybody thinks before I start implementing
any of these ;)

j.weeks


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 Post subject: RE:new desktop & filesystem metaphors
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2001 12:00 am 
>On 2001-11-24 18:03:15, J. Weeks wrote:
>
>Personally, the idea of representing a file with
>all its attribs (ie, where it came from, through which
>transfer protocol, author, size, and a thumbnail) as
>one unique entity is a simple, yet good idea... Linux
>pretty much already does that with Konqueror.
>

linux doesn't do that. kde does.


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 Post subject: RE:new desktop & filesystem metaphors
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2001 12:00 am 
>>Linux pretty much already does that with
>> Konqueror.

>linux doesn't do that. kde does.

I'm aware of that, that's why I said "with Konqueror"... thought it was pretty much implied with that _K_. I mean, Linux does nothing graphical... 'cept maybe that little penguin on startup :)
Jeff


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 Post subject: RE:new desktop & filesystem metaphors
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2001 12:00 am 
>On 2001-12-04 13:22:38, J. Weeks wrote:
>>>Linux pretty much already does that with
>>> Konqueror.
>
>>linux doesn't do that. kde does.
>
>I'm aware of that, that's why I said "with Konqueror"... thought it was pretty much implied with that _K_. I mean, Linux does nothing graphical... 'cept maybe that little penguin on startup :)


yeah, but saying 'linux' doesn't make much sense, as you could easily substitute any bsd, solaris, OS X, or even windows for it. any platform you can compile kde on will work, there's nothing special about linux.


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 Post subject: RE:new desktop & filesystem metaphors
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2001 12:00 am 
>yeah, but saying 'linux' doesn't make much sense, as you could easily substitute any bsd, solaris, OS X, or even windows for it. any platform you can compile kde on will work, there's nothing special about linux.

nope. sure isn't.

j.w.


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 Post subject: (IMPORTANT) Reply to Your Statement
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2001 12:00 am 
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We are asking for you to join us soon as possible under this confidential project. Once you join, you will become a popular recognised INOX producer around the world. Every single person that joins, is treated exactly the same, with great importancy.

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Contact: ANDREW (Director of the company)


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 Post subject: RE:(IMPORTANT) Reply to Your Statement
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 12:00 am 
>On 2001-12-07 19:14:40, MacroLabs -(Director: Andrew) wrote:
>According to your plans associated to 3D Desktop, new File System techniques, different structure of programming etc... we have already started secretly assembling this ultimate project. We have couple of books produced already featuring these New Generation Operating Systems. We are even planning to change the "OS" phrase, because our new "OS" is not just a OS, so we changed it to INOX. We have came up with a name of our New Generation INOX name. The whole INOX arthitecture has been redisigned with new concepts. Our Platform has both 2D and 3D VR modes to change into. Featuring our ultimate AI system (the most advanced AI system in the world). This AI system is even able to produce segments of missing code (sounds totally impossible, but it was finally accomplished).
>
>We are asking for you to join us soon as possible under this confidential project. Once you join, you will become a popular recognised INOX producer around the world. Every single person that joins, is treated exactly the same, with great importancy.
>
>If you are interested in joining this ultimate project than waste no time, the Virtual INOX will come to the world faster than planned, with never seen before power and visibility.
>
>Fax: +6102 9789-5251
>Email (1) : [email protected]
>
>Contact: ANDREW (Director of the company)

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stay away from the LSD dude, it does nasty things to your head


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